Lyra midi learn or modulation matrix ?

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Timclement
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Lyra midi learn or modulation matrix ?

Post by Timclement » Mon Feb 01, 2016 3:13 pm

Is midi learn or a modulation matrix available for Lyra ?

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Tim

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Re: Lyra midi learn or modulation matrix ?

Post by Rim » Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:17 pm

No, Lyra is just a very simple player, there's no modulation matrix or midi learn in Lyra, however Lyra will read the matrix settings in the EXS file and use it - you just can't edit any of it within the Lyra GUI.

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Re: Lyra midi learn or modulation matrix ?

Post by Timclement » Mon Feb 01, 2016 6:58 pm

Thanks Rim,

When I program an ESX24 instrument within Logic Pro X and import to Lyra, does Lyra use those modulation assignments ?

Specifically, will these assignments work in Lyra ?

Velocity -> Sample Select
Pressure -> Sample Start
Pressure -> Relative Volume (auto adjust)
Press-->Velocity->Filter Cutoff

If not, do you have any suggestions for assignments that would work in Lyra ?

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Re: Lyra midi learn or modulation matrix ?

Post by Rim » Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:24 am

Yes, all modulation matrix settings imported from Logic should work in Lyra. Lyra does have a full matrix "under the hood", it's just not accessible.

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Re: Lyra midi learn or modulation matrix ?

Post by Timclement » Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:49 am

Hi Rim,

Any idea why the ESX24 instrument modulations shown in the attachment aren't working in Lyra ?

I've tried with sources CC2, CC11, Pressure. Varying results but none are having the desired result in Lyra - which is smooth volume control from a breath/wind controller (EWI 4000S).


Src Dest
Ctrl #11 S.Select
Ctrl #11 S.Start
Ctrl #11 Rel. Vol Auto Adjust
Ctrl #11 via Env1 Flt Cutoff


thanks
Tim
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Re: Lyra midi learn or modulation matrix ?

Post by Rim » Tue Feb 02, 2016 1:18 pm

Hmm. I'll have a look here and report back. Might be a bug.

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Re: Lyra midi learn or modulation matrix ?

Post by Timclement » Tue Feb 02, 2016 1:50 pm

Something to mention, I am also trying to fix velocity at 127.

In the attachment, I've moved the slider all the way up to fix velocity at 127. I've also have tried setting velocity offset to 127. Both seem to have the same result in EXS24.

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Re: Lyra midi learn or modulation matrix ?

Post by Timclement » Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:35 pm

I made some progress. For some reason the LPX Trumpets+ patch doesn't work well in Lyra.

I was able to convert the included Lyra Trumpet.sf2 patch to EXS format using LPX. Then import it back into Lyra.

The modulations (described earlier) work closer to what I would expect after some tweaking once imported to Lyra. Another problem was that I didn't notice the Lyra filter was disabled by default when I imported the EXS instruments.

I disabled velocity on my EWI 4000S, adjusted the fixed velocity setting and found that many of the Lyra patches work as-is.

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